Saturday, December 28, 2013

Matt. 23:9 Bishop of Rome

Mat 23:9 NKJ Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
The bishops of the Church of England provided us with good guidance in the document which declared their independence from Rome.
They simply stated that the Bishop of Rome was entitled to no more respect within the realm of England than any other foreign bishop.

"That Great City, Mystery, Babylon the Great: The Inhabitants of the Earth Have Been Made Drunk from the Wine of Her Fornication. (Rev. 17:18,5,2)" - In Two Cities web log.
From a forum thread: Me:-  The great city, mystery Babylon, is the international mercantile system.
K:- I am going to disagree only because we see the collapse of the money system in Revelation and then read the fall of Babylon as a separate event.  Also, Babylon is called a city.  It has to be a seat of great power.  Spurgeon said during the time of John's vision that it was believed the Catholic church was the Antichrist.  Now, I doubt I agree with Spurgeon to that extent but I do agree that Babylon is Rome unless someone can show me a better understanding of it.
Me:- Thanks for the prompt and thoughtful response.
The bitter division of Christendom in the Reformation and Counter-Reformation gave rise to a lot of over the top interpretations of scripture and accusations of bad behavior on both sides. These have only recently begun to dissipate.
In Luther's time the de facto authority of the Bishop of Rome was heavy throughout Western Christendom. There was some excuse for connecting the Bishop of Rome with the Scarlet Harlot of Rome. But this was a temporary state, the so called golden age of the papacy when a nation's churches and sacraments could be shut down until its king agreed to be whipped for the instigation of the murder of an archbishop.
The antagonism of the great colonizing nations of Spurgeon's time in regard to missionary activity and an unhealthy mix of religion and politics and state religions sustained the easy but over hasty identification of the Rome of Revelation 17 with the Bishop of Rome and his inordinate claims of authority.
The bishops of the Church of England provided us with good guidance in the document which declared their independence from Rome.
They simply stated that the Bishop of Rome was entitled to no more respect within the realm of England than any other foreign bishop.
(All the bishops signed except John Fisher of Rochester. He was terminated with prejudice and with due process of ecclesiastical and civil law. After an appropriate interval the martyred Fisher was canonized  by the Bishop of Rome in the early 20th century.)
British policy and American colonial policy was much more anti-papal than anti-Roman Catholic. (We would do well today to be anti-mullah rather than anti-Muslim.)
Interestingly, London, in Spurgeon's time was a better candidate for mystery Babylon than Rome. It was the financial center of the world and the international reach of its financial operations was supported by the Empire on which the sun never set and the Navy that ruled the waves of every ocean without a serious rival, as well by their commercial branches in the lesser commercial centers of the nations of the world. The City of London, was and is. a separate jurisdiction. The London City Police are separate from the Metropolitan Police. Much as the U. S. Capital police are separate from the District of Columbia police. An inner city that runs a world or a nation in governmental or financial affairs has its prerogatives. And a financial center with its worldwide outposts and influence is a mystery city.
And the word "mystery" is key. It explains the persistence of mystery Babylon when there was no imperial predecessor of the anti-Christ to carry it. It has been carried by all the commercially interconnected governing powers of the world.


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