Rev 20:15 KJV And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Some
thoughts:
One.
Hell is separate from both the present and the new creation. Hell
might be termed an un-creation since it has been emptied of the
presence of the God in whom all men presently, in this creation, live
and move and have their being.
Two.
Hell was un-created during the three hours of darkness during the
Crucifixion. In order to be forsaken our Lord had to be in a place
where God was not.
Three.
Our Lord took all the sin, and sins, and fallen human spirits of the
world to hell and left them there.
Four.
When the reprobate dead are thrown into hell at the Great White
Throne judgment they will be reunited with their fallen spirits and
their sin and their sins.
Thoughts
above
from
a forum post
copied
in full below:
http://j.mp/7Uncreate or
http://forums.delphiforums.com/jesus7/messages/?msg=35792.40
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[...] The only question, then is how we UNDERSTAND the nature of hell
and the nature of the suffering of those in hell.
{{_ If Hell is not a literal "place" that is devoid of God (because there is no place where God is not), then we must understand it as a STATE OF BEING, rather than as a location. The Soul is RELATIONALLY separated from God BY THEIR OWN CHOICE. [...]
{{_ Therein, I must then contend that perhaps people DO want to "go to hell" in that sense, because what they want is to be AWAY from God. Being free of God's rule is in fact what is at the very HEART of what SIN is. Sin is "self will run riot". It is the desire to "call our souls our own". And to be able to say to God, "this is OURS, not yours". The very core of what sin is is ultimately the desire to run our OWN lives apart from God. That is what Adam and Eve ultimately did when they took the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. "Did God really say...?" the Serpent asked them. They questioned God's wisdom, and they took into their own hands their own lives and fates and did what THEY wanted to do FOR THEMSELVES. They wanted to do something independently of God. They wanted to BE independent from God. [...]
{{_ God punishes no one. Suffering in hell is simply the natural result of being separated from the only source of satisfaction for the innermost needs and longings of a human soul. God designed us to need him. Without God, we ARE in hell. Hell is being relationally separated from God for all eternity and suffering because we were never MEANT to live like that. [Emphasis in original.] }}
{{_ If Hell is not a literal "place" that is devoid of God (because there is no place where God is not), then we must understand it as a STATE OF BEING, rather than as a location. The Soul is RELATIONALLY separated from God BY THEIR OWN CHOICE. [...]
{{_ Therein, I must then contend that perhaps people DO want to "go to hell" in that sense, because what they want is to be AWAY from God. Being free of God's rule is in fact what is at the very HEART of what SIN is. Sin is "self will run riot". It is the desire to "call our souls our own". And to be able to say to God, "this is OURS, not yours". The very core of what sin is is ultimately the desire to run our OWN lives apart from God. That is what Adam and Eve ultimately did when they took the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. "Did God really say...?" the Serpent asked them. They questioned God's wisdom, and they took into their own hands their own lives and fates and did what THEY wanted to do FOR THEMSELVES. They wanted to do something independently of God. They wanted to BE independent from God. [...]
{{_ God punishes no one. Suffering in hell is simply the natural result of being separated from the only source of satisfaction for the innermost needs and longings of a human soul. God designed us to need him. Without God, we ARE in hell. Hell is being relationally separated from God for all eternity and suffering because we were never MEANT to live like that. [Emphasis in original.] }}
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Many, many thanks for your post. The last paragraph, copied above is
a great summation but it is all very fine. Best post, by far, on hell
that I have read during a decade or two on the internet.
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Some thoughts that may be new to you.
One. Hell is separate
from both the present and the new creation. Hell might be termed an
un-creation since it has been emptied of the presence of the God in
whom all men presently, in this creation, live and move and have
their being.
Two. Hell was un-created
during the three hours of darkness during the Crucifixion. In order
to be forsaken our Lord had to be in a place where God was not.
Three. Our Lord took all
the sin, and sins, and fallen human spirits of the world to hell and
left them there.
Four. When the lost are
thrown into hell at the Great White Throne judgement they will be
reunited with their fallen spirits and their sin and their sins.
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May we be true to our calling:
2Co 2:14-17
KJV Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph
in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in
every place. (15) For we are unto God a sweet savour of
Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: (16)
To
the one we are the savour of death unto death;
and to the other the savour of life unto life. And
who is sufficient for these things?
(17) For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but
as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in
Christ.
Above
post was in response to: http://j.mp/7UncreateDot21
or http://forums.delphiforums.com/jesus7/messages/?msg=35792.21
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